Episode 39 – Rocker Plates, v-Everesting and much more

December 13, 2017

Simon, Shane and Nathan are back with another episode packed with Zwift news and gossip.
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Are we expecting to see new features, especially the London extension, pre-Christmas? The Zwiftcasters read the runes, before revealing what their ideal Christmas present from the Zwift developers would be.

Do you sing while you’re Zwifting, or do you only have enough breath to lip-sync? The Zwiftcast launches a fun contest to find the best lip-sync Zwifters.

No sooner had the price rise fuss died down than another storm rolled in across Ocean Boulevard, with ZHQ’s decision to cancel a crit race series, just as it was about to conclude. Zwift exec Emily Mullen explains the reasoning and talks about the debate over women’s racing which the decision sparked.

CVR, the organisation which promotes racing and live event and is headed by prominent Zwifter, Frank Garcia, has launched a whole series of new initiatives. Simon asks Frank some tough questions about the developments and CVR’s relationship with Zwift and Zwifters.

The Zwiftcasters discuss the possible reasons why Strava may have ignored virtual miles in its end-of-year round up publicity and speculate about the relationship between ZHQ and Strava.

If there’s one thing the Zwift community is really good at – it’s Zwift hacks, and the latest upsurge in DIY fixes has seen several Zwifters build their own rocker plates, which permit the trainer to simulate outdoor riding more accurately. Simon rounds up the various approaches and the podcasters discuss the possibility of rocker plates being made commercially.

This episode rounds off with a look at vEveresting, possibly the hardest thing you can do on an indoor trainer.

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2 comments on “Episode 39 – Rocker Plates, v-Everesting and much more

  1. Marc Simkin Dec 15, 2017

    Hi, I’ve been listening to your podcast for a few weeks now. Overall, while I find the podcast informative, it feels more like a corporate marketing product than anything else. I’ve been finding it lite on the practical and very forgiving on platform issues. I normally have no trouble overlooking that, especially since Zwift provides what I can assume is some funding and access to their corporate staff.

    However in the latest podcast, there were some comments made about a competitor’s product and how everything the competitor’s product does is also done by Zwift. Based upon the comments it was very obvious that the person making the comments has never used the competitor’s product.

    I’m referring to TrainerRoad. There are significant differences between TrainerRoad and Zwift.

    Firstly, TrainerRoad’s Power Match algorithm/feature actually works. Zwift’s doesn’t. That means if I want to do a ride in Zwift, I have to use my smart trainer as the source of power, not my power meter. That is a problem. We all know that measuring power at different points will lead to some difference, even if they are minor. Therefore, to use one source of power while inside and a different source outdoors is troublesome to me.

    I’ve turned the issue into Zwift support. They were not very responsive at first. When they did respond, they gave a pat answer that I must have some interference between that is causing data drops. When I pointed out that TrainerRoad running on the exact same hardware had zero issues, they finally admitted that it is a known issue. They don’t know what is happening or why and can I please send them more details about my setup.

    Secondly, and more importantly, while Zwift has some structured workout there is zero guidance on how to string those workouts together to make a comprehensive training plan to achieve your goals.

    TrainerRoad has workouts, but more importantly, they have training plans to follow for each stage. They have close to 100 training plans and 1,719 workouts. All the plans and workouts are developed by Level I and Level II USAC Certified Coaches.

    This is the real value of TrainerRoad.

    Right now, I’m using both. When I have to ride indoors on a weekend and need to log time/miles with no specific goal I typically use Zwift. However, the two to three days a week I’m following a training plan I use TrainerRoad. There is a plan, a workout and a targeted goal for the day.


  2. Hi Marc
    I think Nathan was probably speaking in general, rather than uber-specifically, and probably was also directing his comments towards the broad mass of users. It’s true that TrainerRoad offers a much wider and deeper library and a much richer offering in terms of training plans. I think from what we know of what’s happening at Zwift, there are plans afoot to increase their offerings in these areas – and perhaps with better functionality too around Power Matching. But, for sure, they have some way to go before competing directly with TrainerRoad in this area.

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